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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:13:00 -
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Underwhelming.
So its still a crappy hacker/scanner
And a crappy repper
And a crappy shooter
And a crappy j-space explorer
And a crappy droner
And now its a crappy refitter
Everything it does is still done much better by other ships. Ships of smaller classes or larger classes. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:54:00 -
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Conjaq wrote: Giving it a covert cloak would definitely be to overpowered
How definitive we talking? I don't see the thing being so incredibly good at combat that a cloak would make it OP. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:10:00 -
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Enre Rosencraz wrote:SMA is an interesting way to go. If you are going to rethink this ship, as everyone is pretty unanimous that you should, then go a different way with it.
Make it an Anti-Bhaalgorn.
Give it a shielded capacitor. A 25-50% reduction (Amarr BS skill level based) in cap neuted per cycle. This will give it use in C4+ anomalies and make it one hell of a remote repper.
it may even give it a purpose in PVP fleets as a logi alternative if you make it a bit more agile.
my 2 isk. Whoa, I like you. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.12 02:18:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:I say this on behalf of CCP: for everyone asking for a Black Ops or Cloaking bonus, **** OFF, NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. So how much does CCP pay you to speak for them? |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.12 15:59:00 -
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Airto TLA wrote:Ok a little confused, I get that this is not a must have ship as laid out, but I can not see it as horrible.
First in some cases the price is an issue, to some people it simply not a barrier.
Second, if it can beat the guardian on pure rep power (with limited range) it would seem their are cases when it would replace one or more guardians in a logistics wing and be a plus to the group (since pilots are often the limiting factor).
Third it can do some damage with 125 mb and +50% sentry drones that can be assigned to help the fleet (guardians can not).
Fourth, It would seem to have a few spare mids to do carry things to annoy the enemy.
Fifth, refitted for damage and using heavy drones is it really that far behind a Domi out side point blank range? (not a good use of the ship, but with refitting easier may be the right thing to do at the time.
Again at 1.2 bil, it is not cost efficient, but in limited roles it would seem to be better and some people will pay a lot more to get a bit more out of their most limited resource, Pilots. I'm coming around. If the Nestor was as cheap as a mach is currently, I would use it in certain situations. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.13 15:53:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:
Maybe extra 0.5 au/s warp speed coudl be the buff needed to make it excel on that role...
No need. Its not all that hard to get 3au out of any battleship. A T2 hyperspace rig and a 15% warp speed implant still doesn't get a 2AU to 3AU. What do you think "not hard" qualifies as? |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:41:00 -
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Joraa Starkmanir wrote:Irya Boone wrote:Don't understand why dev are so stubborn ..
put the covert ops cloak on the ship already , give the ship the jump drive for god sake and give the remote rep some serious bonus
Anyway you 'll see with the carppy tweaks no one will use this ships like these days Give it 8/8/8 slots while your at it, and ofc stronger gun/drone bonuses. Or leave it w/o cov ops cloak so you dont have to nerf it back to the stone age Im fine with nerfing it and giving it a covops cloak. At least then ONE of the SoE ships will actually have something unique going for it. Remember how pirate ships are supposed to have some bonus that doesn't exist anywhere else? |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:05:00 -
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Joraa Starkmanir wrote:Hakaari Inkuran wrote: Im fine with nerfing it and giving it a covops cloak. At least then ONE of the SoE ships will actually have something unique going for it. Remember how pirate ships are supposed to have some bonus that doesn't exist anywhere else?
Remember how SoE is not a pirate faction, and these ships are available in high sec? Ship Maintenance Bay is also kinda unique in high sec (only orca have it), its also the only exploration battleship, the remote rep bonus is also just shared with minmatar carrier/supercarrier (37.5% instead of 50% tho) Yeah that's true, nestor stops being a pirate ship when it suits the poster's argument, and it goes back to being a pirate ship when it suits the poster's argument
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:36:00 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:MeBiatch wrote:baltec1 wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote: And then several months later CCP will see that it's not as OP as the underpants market brigade claimed it would be in order to sell more underpants, and will give all that tank & DPS back, and we will have finally gotten over the outright fear of Cov Cloaks on a BS.
No they won't. Incidentally, T3 are in line for a savage nerf when their balance pass arrives. actually they are not... what will happen though is under used sub sections will be boosted and the over used ones are getting nerffed T3 were ment to be placed between T1 and T2 power wise and gain a slight adv over the T2 when overheating The T3 overheating bonus needs to be strengthened a bit. But yes, I would anticipate the popular subsystems to get a kick in the 'nads |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:35:00 -
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Dehval wrote:Drummin Zerglin wrote:The nestor can rep x2.5 a guardian, the same as 1 cap rep on a triage archon. The issue with this is the cap, but a lot of people seem to be dismissing the ship maintenance bay as plain storage for Cap boosters. You can't put anything except ships in a ship maintenance bay. It isn't a fleet hangar which allows the storage of mods. The only thing the Nestor can put in there is a single shuttle sized ship. Well clearly its there for the refit capability, right? CCP obviously intended you not to put anything in there. Would it be clearer if the size of the bay was 1m3? |
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:40:00 -
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Roughly how fast will a Nestor be with a MWD now that its already-low mass was gutted? |
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